Jan 17, 2022
The Legends Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent Lauren, Agent Michelle, Agent Chris, and Producer of the show Director SP discuss the 2021 Marvel Studios film Eternals. The Team debriefs you on the Eternals cast highlights and creative team run down, the Legends Of S.H.I.E.L.D. EXCLUSIVE synopsis, the length of the film and what could have been edited out, which Agents would try Gilgamesh’s mead, what exactly Kit Harrington was doing in the film, too many main characters, nonlinear storytelling done mostly well, epic well-choreographed fights, the possibilities of characters returning, why Gilgamesh had to die in Chloé Zhao own hard to understand words, why Ikaris betrayal was the focal point for the film, the Eternal’s impossible choice, the fun Bollywood scene, Sprite’s historically inaccurate fireworks, SP’s technical issues with Tiamut, if countries were justified to ban the movie, Michelle’s Eternals sitcom pitch, the possibilities of the film being a future MCU benchmark, story gems that were badly discarded, what the length of a well told film is, the wonderful special effects and cinematography, the tech link to Shang-Chi, and SP’s wacky question of the week. The Agents also discuss the top Marvel Studios news stories of the week including the Eternals box office, what Bill Murray reveals about his Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania character and who Marvel Studios is tapping to help the Echo Writers team. There’s also some audience feedback to run down this week! Stay tuned after the credits for a few minutes of Legends Of S.H.I.E.L.D. bonus audio you won’t hear anywhere else.
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Produced By: Kevin Feige
79 Production Credits
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79 are Marvel Comics Based properties.
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Produced By: Nate Moore
6 Production Credits
Other Credited Shang Chi and the Legend Of The Ten Rings Producers:
Victoria Alonso ... executive producer
Mitchell Bell ... co-producer (as Mitch Bell)
Louis D'Esposito ... executive producer
Kevin de la Noy ... executive producer
Juan Cano Nono ... producer: Sur Film, Canary Islands (as Juan Antonio Cano)
Helen Pollak ... line producer: additional photography
Andreas Wentz ... producer: Sur Film, Canary Islands
Music By: Ramin Djawadi
73 Composing Credits
Directed By: Chloé Zhao
8 directing credits
Screenplay by: Patrick Burleigh
Screenplay by: Ryan Firpo
Screenplay by: Kaz Firpo
Gemma Chan ... Sersi
Richard Madden ... Ikaris
Angelina Jolie ... Thena
Salma Hayek ... Ajak
Kit Harington ... Dane Whitman
Kumail Nanjiani ... Kingo
Lia McHugh ... Sprite
Brian Tyree Henry ... Phastos
Lauren Ridloff ... Makkari
Barry Keoghan ... Druig
Ma Dong-seok ... Gilgamesh (as Don Lee)
Harish Patel ... Karun
Bill Skarsgård ... Kro
Haaz Sleiman ... Ben
Esai Daniel Cross ... Jack
Harry Styles ... Eros
Alan Scott ... Patrick
Hannah Dodd ... Sandra
Adrià Escudero ... Diego (as Adriá Escudero)
Sebastián Capitán Viveros ... Jano
Nikkita Chadha ... Bollywood Star
Grahame Fox ... Kro On-Set Reader
Zain Al Rafeea ... Mesopotamian Young Man
Alberto Falcon Rodriguez ... Mesopotamian Father
Lucia Efstathiou ... Natural History Museum Student
Orson Rosenberg ... Aztec Child
Ariadna Vadillo Soto ... Ancient Babylon Farmer
Derek Horsham ... Ancient Babylon Smuggler #1
Jeff Mirza ... Gupta Hindu Priest
Ascension Martinez Rubio ... Mesopotamian Grandmother
Ozer Ercan ... Ancient Babylon Smuggler #2
Patton Oswalt ... Pip the Troll
David Kaye ... Arishem (voice)
UPCOMING MARVEL STUDIOS SLATE OF PROJECTS
MCU – MARVEL STUDIOS
Box Office: Box Office: Marvel’s ‘Eternals’ Tops $300 Million Worldwide
Eternals reigns with $161.7 million global opening weekend despite international hurdles
Why Marvel's Eternals Killed Off THAT Character
Eternals Spoiler Special: Chloé Zhao On Faith, The Original Ending And Harry Styles
Eternals director Chloé Zhao recently provided fans with the reason why Gilgamesh had to die in the Marvel Studios film.
Speaking to Empire, Zhao explained how Gilgamesh's death was pivotal to the development of Thena. "She had no choice but to embrace her vulnerability, her messiness," Zhao explained. "Before she had Gilgamesh and he gave her the most important thing: 'remember, you have it in yourself.' She can't fight it with fire, she's got to let that that [sic] water come in. Thena needed to lean into the soft side of her, and remember the memories that are going to heal her. This was written in the treatment, but losing Gilgamesh is a tough thing for the whole group."
Zhao also revealed how it was important to her and Thena actor Angelina Jolie that the character's mental health struggles and strong relationship with Gilgamesh were present throughout the film. "From the very beginning, [Angelina] said, 'Chloe, we gotta have Thena stay feminine, stay vulnerable, break her down. I'm willing to go there. That's very Important,'" she explained. "And also for such a strong woman to not be afraid to lean the shoulder of a strong man. That partnership Thena and Gilgamesh have; she's not afraid to lean on him, and that was important for Angie."
During the film, Thena suffered from Mahd Wy'ry, an illness that caused her to forget her memories. Zhao said it was important that one of the strongest Eternals was also seen as vulnerable, adding, "We're talking about one of the strongest female warriors out there in myth, and then we're talking about breaking her down to a point where she's lost herself. She can battle anyone else. But she can't protect herself from herself, not with strength, and not with power."
In Eternals, Gilgamesh decided to watch over Thena so that she could keep her memories, despite Ajak warning that this could result in Thena attacking him. When the Eternals reunited, Gilgamesh sacrificed himself in a battle against the Deviants in order to protect Thena.
Of course, Gilgamesh wasn't the only member of the Eternals to meet their demise in the film. Leader of the Eternals Ajak was killed by a Deviant, but it was later revealed that Ikaris, in his commitment to Arishem, sacrificed her to the evil creatures. When he failed to allow the Emergence of Tiamut in the final battle against the other Eternals, Ikaris flew into the sun, guilt-ridden from his decisions. While there were initially doubts among audiences as to whether or not Ikaris died or whether he had simply travelled elsewhere, screenwriter Kaz Firpo confirmed the character's fate in an interview with CBR, explaining, "That act is basically saying, 'I made a mistake, but I can't face my family, and I can't go on living.'"
Ant-Man 3’s Bill Murray Confirms Villainous Marvel Role
Bill Murray & Eli Manning Have a Day in Brooklyn! | The Eli Manning Show
Speaking to Eli Manning of the New York Giants, Bill Murray reveals that his secret Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania role is a "bad guy."
Actor Bill Murray has revealed that his role for Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania is unlike the usual do-gooders he's known for.
Speaking to former New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning on The Eli Manning Show, the retired athlete questioned Murray about his part in the upcoming film. "Aren't you in, like, a superhero movie coming out? Ant-Man?" Not only does Murray confirm his involvement in the film, but upon being asked what his power is, Murray responds with, "My power is, I'm a bad guy."
It was first reported that Murray, known for comedy films like Ghostbusters and Stripes, would be joining the upcoming Marvel Cinematic Universe installment back in October 2021, with the actor later confirming his involvement a few weeks later while speaking to German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. A rumor picked up by The Illuminerdi in late December hinted at Murray playing Krylar, an obscure, Hulk-related character from Marvel comics. However, Krylar's only appearance had him heroically helping the Hulk, debunking the rumor -- unless the film really changes Krylar up.
The main villain of Quantumania will be Kang the Conqueror, played by Jonathan Majors. The actor already played a variant of Kang, He Who Remains, in the finale of Loki on Disney+, which teased the villain's eventual MCU debut. Being that 2018's Ant-Man and the Wasp featured multiple antagonists not working together, it is unclear at this time if Murray's mysterious role will be connected to Majors', or someone else entirely.
However, Murray's involvement in the superhero flick does mean a reunion will occur that did not take long to happen. The actor was just featured in Ghostbusters: Afterlife alongside Ant-Man actor Paul Rudd, though Murray's screen time was brief. At the red carpet premiere for Afterlife, Rudd summed up Murray's involvement in the MCU to nothing more than a rumor.
While Rudd remained tight-lipped, it is clear that Murray's involvement in Quantumania is more than just whispers and assumptions, and he talked about the film's star further on The Eli Manning Show. Speaking with Manning, the comedy actor joked that Paul Rudd doesn't agree with his "Sexiest Man Alive" status, so neither does Murray, saying, "I'm gonna go along with Paul." Beyond that though, no other details about Rudd, Ant-Man or Murray's villainous role were shared.
Gemma Chan Creates Her Own Good Work
Eternals Star Confirms Their MCU Return: 'Marvel Owns Us for Life'
From W Magazine:
Will you play Sersi again?
Yes. Marvel owns us for life. [Laughs]
One of the stars of Marvel Studios' Eternals confirms that her character will inevitably appear again in a future Marvel Cinematic Universe project.
Eternals star Gemma Chan confirmed her return to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
In an interview with W Magazine, Chan was asked how she felt about playing Eternals member Sersi in the recent MCU film. "It was interesting. In Eternals, she starts out shy and then discovers her power as a leader. That was fun," Chan said. When asked if she will ever reprise her Eternals role in the future, Chan had a cheeky response: "Yes. Marvel owns us for life."
This is not the first time Chan has spoken about Sersi's transformation throughout the film, previously referring to the character's journey as a sort of "coming of age" story as she grows into her power. "I mean, yes, Sersi is a superhero, but her powers are not kind of the most obvious or the-the flashiest," Chan said during a November 2021 press conference attended by CBR. "She's not, you know, the best fighter. But what she does have is empathy and a real affinity for humankind and the earth."
She continued, "That was one of the enjoyable things about the film, was going on that journey with that character. You know, it's kind of her coming of age, even though she's probably thousands of years old. But she learns to trust herself and to grow into her own power, really. And that was a really interesting thing to explore."
How and when Chan will reappear in the MCU remains unclear, though Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige has previously referred to Sersi as the de facto main character of the Eternals, and the film's ending left the door open for the remaining Eternals to reprise their roles in a future MCU installment. One half of the group sees Sersi, Kingo and Phastos abducted by the Celestial Arishem, while the other half encounters Harry Styles' Eros and Pip the Troll in space as they explore the stars. According to the director, Chloé Zhao, this is a stark contrast to the originally "bleak" ending she had planned for the titular Eternals.
"I didn't hate it, because I'm used to films that are more melancholy. But I don't think it went down well with audiences," Zhao said. "It used to end with everybody back on the ship, minds erased and just going on to another planet, like The Twilight Zone. I remember when it goes to black, everyone was like, 'I don't know what to do.' And also, it's the MCU, and you want to be excited for what's next."
Directed by Zhao from a script by herself, Patrick Burleigh, Ryan Firpo and Kaz Firpo, Eternals is slated to release on Disney+ on Jan. 12.
Disney+ Adds Eternals to Updated MCU Timeline
The release of Eternals on Disney+ confirms when the film takes place in the Marvel Cinematic Universe timeline.
On Disney+, there's an option to have every available MCU project display in timeline order. In that list, Eternals takes place after Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings and before Hawkeye, which is the release order for those titles. This makes Eternals the 27th project overall in the timeline, though it's noteworthy that 2008's The Incredible Hulk and the three MCU Spider-Man films are not available on the streaming service.
Eternals follows the titular group of powerful aliens, who were sent to Earth by the Celestials to stop the Deviants. Parts of Eternals take place before most other events in the MCU timeline, but the majority of the action takes place after 2018's Avengers: Endgame. Following the reversal of Thanos' Blip, the Eternals are forced to come back together in order to once against stop the Deviants and prevent an event known as the "Emergence." Due to the five-year time jump in Endgame, Eternals takes place in approximately late 2023.
Released on Nov. 5, 2021, Eternals earned $401.8 million at the worldwide box office against a budget of $200 million. While that's low for an MCU film, Eternals released during the COVID-19 pandemic, which has had people reticent to return to in-person screenings. Additionally, the project has not released in China, which is one of the biggest markets for films.
While Eternals performed respectably at the box office, the film fared far worse with critics. At the time of writing, Eternals holds a 47 percent on Rotten Tomatoes among critics. This score makes Eternals the first MCU film to hold the "Rotten" distinction on the review aggregator. Still, the audience score for Eternals is much higher on Rotten Tomatoes and currently sits at 78 percent.
It is unknown at this time whether Eternals will receive a sequel. However, Gemma Chan, who played Sersi in the film, has indicated that her character will indeed return at some point in the future.
Directed by Chloé Zhao from a script by herself, Patrick Burleigh, Ryan Firpo and Kaz Firpo, Eternals is available now on Disney+. The movie will receive a home media release on Feb. 15.
ECHO DISNEY+ MCU TV SERIES FEATURES WRITERS FROM THE PUNISHER & DAREDEVIL SEASON 3
Marvel Taps Daredevil and Punisher Writers for Disney+'s Echo Series
Before the Echo Disney+ series enters production, join The Illuminerdi as we analyze the creative talent behind the Hawkeye spinoff.
Hawkeye was a MCU TV series that followed Clint Barton and Kate Bishop, two heroes who hold the titular mantle. The action-comedy also introduced Marvel fans to newcomer Alaqua Cox, who played Maya Lopez. Lopez was an elite member of the Tracksuit Mafia, Kingpin’s private guard.
Maya Lopez learned that her father was murdered on the order of Kingpin, who had lied about her father’s death and manipulated Maya into becoming his own living weapon. In the season finale, Maya shot Kingpin for his betrayal, though it’s unlikely her attack will seriously impair Wilson Fisk
Echo will take place after the events of Hawkeye, following Maya Lopez as she learns to fight crime and find her own way in the world. As reported by Murphy’s Multiverse, the series will feature Marion Dayre as the lead writer, who worked on Better Call Saul. Dayre will be joined by Shoshannah Stern (Supernatural, This Close), Bobby Wilson (Rutherford Falls, Reservation Dogs), and more.
Ken Kristensen and Dara Resnik will also work in the Echo writer’s room, and their inclusion is the most intriguing considering their prior work. Kristensen wrote three episodes of the Marvel Netflix series, The Punisher while Resnik penned two episodes of Daredevil season three. This makes Kristensen and Resnik veterans of MCU TV, with work that predates the Marvel TV and Marvel Studios merger.
These writers understand the street-level side of the MCU, having created nuanced, layered stories featuring icons like Frank Castle, Matt Murdock, Kingpin, Karen Paige and so many more. Benjamin Poindexter, John Pilgrim, Detective Mahoney and other underrated characters from Marvel Netflix steal the spotlight across the five amazing episodes of television penned by Resnik and Kristensen.
Virtue Of The Vicious is a masterpiece unlike any other episode of Marvel TV. An attack on a senator and Karen Page (seemingly) by The Punisher and a domestic terrorist is explored by Detective Mahoney through the conflicting perspectives of those involved. This episode examines veterans and law enforcement officers, exploring the idea that good apples, bad apples and everything between exist across all professions. Giving someone a badge and a gun doesn’t change that. As the cherry on top, there’s a stairway combat sequence with Frank Castle that is almost unmatched in the MCU.
Trouble The Water takes place in early season two, killing two birds with one stone. This episode establishes John Pilgrim and those he works for as a credible threat, while simultaneously reminding viewers of just how lethally badass The Punisher really is. This episode shows Frank Castle as an agent of death herself, and it doesn’t get much better than that.
The strongest elements of Flustercluck are the scenes shared between Frank Castle and his young ward Amy. A bounty is placed on their heads, drawing New York’s lowliest out of the woodwork. Luckily for Amy, her guardian angel may as well be the devil himself, and he tears through dozens of men to protect her. This episode proves that saddling Frank Castle with a psuedo-sidekick was one of the smartest things Marvel Netflix ever did.
Dara Resnik wrote Daredevil, season three, episode eight, “Upstairs/Downstairs” and cowrote episode eleven, “Reunion” alongside Jim Dunn.
Dara Resnik and Ken Kristensen provided Marvel TV fans with some of Netflix’s finest offerings in years past. As such, Echo is so much more promising with their talents attached. Hopefully their creative present shines in Echo, and if we’re lucky, maybe they can write for some of the characters they worked with on Daredevil & The Punisher yet again.
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