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Sep 27, 2021

The Legends Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Producer of the show Director SP, Agent Lauren, and Consultant Chris discuss the Disney+ What If…? season one episode “What If…Thor Were An Only Child?” the weekly Marvel news and listener feedback. The Team debriefs you National Great American Pot Pie Day and Bisexuality Visibility Day 2021, what a complete and total fun party episode they saw on What If…? this week, a robust voice acting critique for the episode, a Watcher Watch by Chris, the team expect to all get Magic tattoos together in Vegas soon, the city-wide multi-school party, why the MCU needs more Darcy, the epic-ness of the Grandmaster, a possible Stan Lee cameo, Korg’s pacifier, evidence as to why Howard The Duck brings the fun into the series, the shock as to why Heimdall does not pay attention to Midgard, where is Thor’s sister?, the grand S.H.I.E.L.D. weapon, how the Asgardian spell check is really magic, the episode Thor-Captain Marvel fight with looney toons map names, Thor admits he is indeed a horse god, what Odin’s What If moment really was, that incredible ending, a fandom’s appeal to maintain Marvel television shows in MCU canon, Chloe Bennett’s stunning admissions, and the upcoming Disney+ Day. Stay tuned after the credits for a few minutes of Legends Of S.H.I.E.L.D. bonus audio.


What If…Thor Were An Only Child?
From the Disney+ Marvel series What If (S1E7)
Weekly Marvel News
The first Ever Disney+ Day with an MCU special and the streaming premier of Shang-Chi
An MCU fandom meca’s appeal to keep TV series as MCU canon
WandaVision’s Emmy performance
And our first looks at Hulu’s adaptation of Marvel’s Hit-Monkey
Your Feedback


S1E7 “What If … Thor Were An Only Child?”

“What If … Thor Were An Only Child?” premiered on Disney+ on Wednesday September 22nd, 2021.

Series Directed By: Bryan Andrews
3 directing credits starting 1999
3x Men In Black: The Series
5x Jackie Chan Adventures
7x What If
Also a Storyboard Artist with 41 credit
And a Writer with 9 total credits

Story Editor: Mathew Chauncy
2 Writer Credits starting in 2018
16x 3Below: Tales Of Arcadia
9x What If…? (Story Editor for this episode but Written by for 4)

Head Writer/Episode Writer/Showrunner: A.C. Bradley 
1 producing credit starting in 2021 
Writer: 5 Credits
1x Arrow (Birds Of Prey)
28x Trollhunters: Tales Of Arcadia
38x 3Below: Tales of Arcadia
9x What If

Jeffrey Wright                        ... The Watcher (voice) 9 episodes
The Hunger Games
Casino Royale
Quantum Of Solace
Chris Hemsworth                                    ...         Thor
Star Trek
Snow White and the Huntsman
Red Dawn (2012)
Star Trek Into Darkness
Ghostbusters (2016)
12 Strong
Natalie Portman                         ...         Jane Foster 
Léon: The Professional
Mars Attacks!
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
Where the Heart Is
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
V for Vendetta
Black Swan
No Strings Attached
Tom Hiddleston                          ...         Loki
War Horse
Midnight in Paris
The Deep Blue Sea
Crimson Peak
Kat Dennings                             ...         Darcy
The 40-Year-Old Virgin
ER (TV Series)
2 Broke Girls (TV Series)
Samuel L. Jackson                                  ...         Nick Fury (voice)
Jungle Fever
Pulp Fiction
Coming To America
Jurassic Park
Die Hard with a Vengeance
A Time to Kill
Long Kiss Goodnight
Eve's Bayou
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones
The Incredibles
Coach Carter
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
Snakes on a Plane
Star Wars: The Clone Wars
Mother and Child
Django Unchained
Jeff Goldblum                             ...         Grandmaster
Invasion of the Body Snatchers
The Right Stuff
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
Transylvania 6-5000
The Fly
Earth Girls Are Easy
Captain Planet and the Planeteers 
Jurassic Park
Nine Months
Independence Day
The Lost World: Jurassic Park
The Grand Budapest Hotel
Cats & Dogs
Independence Day: Resurgence
Cobie Smulders                          ...         Maria Hill 
How I Met Your Mother (TV Series)
The Lego Movie
Jack Reacher: Never Go Back
A Series of Unfortunate Events (TV Series)
Stumptown (TV Series)
American Crime Story (TV Series)
Frank Grillo                                            ...         Brock Rumlow 
Minority Report
Blind Justice (TV Series)
Prison Break (TV Series)
Zero Dark Thirty
Hitman's Wife's Bodyguard
Taika Waititi                                           ...         Korg 
Green Lantern
The Mandalorian (TV Series)
The Suicide Squad
Karen Gillan                                           ...         Nebula
Doctor Who
Jumanji: Welcome To The Jungle
Jumanji: The Next Level
Gunpowder Milkshake
Jaimie Alexander                                    ...         Lady Sif
Blindspot (TV Series)
Seth Green                                            ...         Howard The Duck
Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery
Can’t Hardly Wait
Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me
Buffy The Vampire Slayer
Austin Powers in Goldmember
The Italian Job
Robot Chicken
Star Wars: the Clone Wars
Mass Effect (voice)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (TV Series)
Alexandra Daniels                                  ...         Carol Danvers / Captain Marvel 
Mothers and Daughters
Rachel House                             ...         Topaz 
Josette Eales                              ...         Frigga
Relatively New
Blended as a Massage instructor
David Chen                                            ...         Hogun 
Several Additional Voice credits
Fred Tatasciore                          ...         Volstagg / Drax
832 Acting Credits!!!!! (since 1982)
Lots Of Video Games
Overwatch - Behind the Voice Actor Awards Best Vocal Ensemble in a Video Game
6 more since we discussed him in episode 388
Star Tours - as Darth Vader in 1987!!!!
Star Wars: The Clone Wars
Curious George
Charlotte's Web
The Cleveland Show
Kung Fu Panda 2
Star Wars: The Clone Wars
Wreck-It Ralph
Thundercats (2012)
Tron: Uprising (TV Series)
Star Trek Into Darkness
Gravity Falls
Star Wars: The Force Awakens
Kung Fu Panda 3
Star Wars Rebels
Skylanders Academy
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
The PowerPuff Girls
Voltron: Legendary Defender
3Below: Tales of Arcadia 
Frozen II
Star Wars Resistance
The Orville
Robot Chicken
Family Guy
American Dad!
Star Trek: Lower Decks
Space Jam: A New Legacy
Max Mittelman                            ...         Fandral 
Awards: Behind the Voice Actors Awards Best Male Lead Vocal Performance in a Video Game
Persona 5 (Video Game)
Sailor Moon (TV Series)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans (TV Series)
Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt: December Sky
Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt: Bandit Flower
Voltron: Legendary Defender (TV Series)
Blockbuster (TV Series)
Frozen II
The Seven Deadly Sins (TV Series)
 ThunderCats Roar (TV Series)
Clancy Brown                             ...         Surtur 
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
The Shawshank Redemption
Earth 2 (TV Series)
Mighty Ducks: The Animated Series (TV Series short)
Starship Troopers
ER (TV Series)
Zorro (TV Series)
Men in Black: The Series (TV Series)
Superman: The Animated Series (TV Series)
Voltron: The Third Dimension (TV Series)
Star Trek: Enterprise (TV Series)
Justice League (TV Series)
Justice League Unlimited (TV Series)
Avatar: The Last Airbender (TV Series)
Green Lantern
Thundercats (TV Series)
Star Wars: The Clone Wars (TV Series)
The Flash (TV Series)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (TV Series)
Star Wars Rebels (TV Series)
Trollhunters: Tales of Arcadia (TV Series short)
The Venture Bros. (TV Series)

NEWS [1:05:08]


Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings is scheduled to premiere on September 3rd, 2021.

Eternals is scheduled to premiere on November 5th, 2021.

Disney+ Day on November 12th, 2021 including streaming premiere for Shang-Chi

Hawkeye is scheduled to premiere on November 24th, 2021. There will be 6 episodes … I think.

Ms Marvel is supposed to premiere late in 2021 on Disney+ but no date has been announced. 

Spider-Man: No Way Home is scheduled to premiere on December 17th, 2021.

Moon Knight is supposed to premiere late in 2022 on Disney+ but no date has been announced. 

She-Hulk is supposed to premiere late in 2022 on Disney+ but no date has been announced. 

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (Mar 25th 2022?)

Secret Invasion is in development for release on Disney+ but no date has been announced. 

Ironheart is in development for release on Disney+ but no date has been announced. 

Thor: Love and Thunder (May 6th, 2022)

Armor Wars  is in development for release on Disney+ but no date has been announced. 

I Am Groot is in development for release on Disney+ but no date has been announced. I’ve heard this will be a holiday special.

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (July 8th, 2022)

Echo is in development for release on Disney+ but no date has been announced. 

An untitled Wakanda series is in development for release on Disney+ but no date has been announced. 

The Marvels (November 11th, 2022)

Also, we know there will be a Loki season two at some point.

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (February 17th, 2023)

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 (May 5th, 2023)

Fantastic Four  (???)

I Am Groot is in development for release on Disney+ but no date has been announced. I’ve heard this will be a holiday special.

Untitled (February 16th, 2024)

Untitled (May 3rd, 2024)

Untitled (July 26th, 2024)

Untitled (November 8th, 2024)

List of MCU films in production without premiere dates
Fantastic Four
Deadpool 3
Avengers-Level Team up to end the phase (not confirmed in development)
Could be linked to Russo Brothers story from last week
Captain America Sequel
Possible X-Men

Projects that have NOT been announced yet
Young Avengers


MCU Wiki Community Urges Marvel Studios to Keep Past TV Shows Canon
A Passionate and Concerned Appeal for the Preservation of Marvel Cinematic Universe Television Canon, from a Devoted Fan
Written by MCU Wiki Admin/User: +BEJT
I regret only reaching out in appeal, but unfortunately while the praises of Marvel Studios are always heard, Marvel Television fans are feeling unheard.
Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Marvel’s Agent Carter, Marvel’s Daredevil, Marvel’s Jessica Jones, Marvel’s Luke Cage, Marvel’s Iron Fist, Marvel’s The Defenders, Marvel’s Inhumans, Marvel’s The Punisher, Marvel’s Runaways, Marvel’s Cloak & Dagger, and Helstrom* comprise 29 seasons of television/386 episodes/over 300 hours, making up a massive portion of the official Marvel Cinematic Universe (as of the end of 2020, approximately 86% of it by runtime**).

The Incidents That Have Caused Increasing Concern:
...I was already scared by 2019 of how Captain Marvel would handle Coulson’s history. Fortunately, the excellent film did not provide many significant problems, but this felt only like luck, since the film did not appear to take Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. into account: seemingly implying that Fury and Coulson barely knew each other in 1995 (the show established Fury recruited and supervised Coulson in 1982), and having Coulson mention the Kree (Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 1 involved him not knowing who the Kree were – fortunately, the T.A.H.I.T.I. protocol erased Coulson’s memory of everything to do with his resurrection, and with Kree being a key part, they would naturally have also been wiped).
The perfect casting of Mahershala Ali as Blade also unfortunately further drove the false narrative online, with people claiming that it meant the shows were “confirmed” non-canon due to Ali already having an MCU role as Cottonmouth. While this was an Internet overreaction given there are other examples of dual casting, the dual casting quirk not being acknowledged felt concerning.
It admittedly did not help that Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 6 set itself a year after Avengers: Infinity War and Marvel’s Runaways: Season 3 took its timeline through to post-Avengers: Infinity War 2018 dates, yet unfortunately neither referenced the Snap.
A 2019 quote from Mr. Feige, which fairly described the Disney+ shows as the first time TV would truly connect back and forth with the films, was falsely run by sites as “confirmation” that the other shows were not part of the MCU. This quote has been weaponised and referenced ad nauseum for 2 years.
The Darkhold would appear in WandaVision with no link to Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D./Marvel’s Runaways
The fan reaction to the Darkhold and Mobius scenes has also led to upsetting incidents where creators such as Jac Schaeffer and Michael Waldron are asked questions they are seemingly, understandably, not informed to answer, giving confused and accidentally damaging quotes.

Cannon Impact:

There are other great Marvel shows, e.g. Legion, but these have nowhere near the power or lasting impact in my heart simply by virtue of not being part of this world.
The MCU family is such a wonderful thing, but right now, Television-inclusive fans don’t feel like we’re welcome in that family anymore.
Mooted “Possibilities”
If the Inhuman Royal Family needed to be rebooted within the MCU… it would not be the worst thing imaginable.
The idea of being an extricable part of the MCU does not apply to Marvel’s Iron Fist
There is precedent with Star Wars for wiping canon, but there it was motivated by a need to free the storytelling. The Marvel Television MCU shows are not particularly restrictive. Most things can be picked up on fairly easily, perhaps at most needing a couple of throwaway setup lines.
Alternate Universe: The shows aren’t novelty What If…? type stories, e.g. “What If… Phil Coulson Were Resurrected?”, made to be a separate little alternate story – but born and bred as parts of building, developing, growing, interweaving the beautiful main MCU world and timeline.
Some Hopes
Recently, Mr. Feige made the comment, “Everything is on the board. That’s one of the fun things about the comics is that characters would appear and disappear and come and go […] There are some great characters and actors from those shows.” This exciting quote bears similarity to previous remarks of Mr. Feige’s, such as, “All of those things inhabit, however far on the outskirts, the same continuity, so certainly that opportunity [to integrate those characters] exists.”

Eternals Earns PG-13 Rating's breakdown of the rating describes Eternals as including "fantasy violence and action, some language and brief sexuality." It's the latter element that has fans raising their eyebrows, with the Marvel Cinematic Universe's movies having avoided sexual content since Disney acquired Marvel Entertainment in 2009.
Unlike MCU movies past, romance is said to play a key role in the film's narrative. It even features a love triangle between on-again, off-again Eternal couple Ikaris (Richard Madden) and Sersi (Gemma Chan) and Dane Whitman (Kit Harington), the mortal human who's dating Sersi when the movie picks up in the present.
The "brief sexuality" could also allude to a scene with Thena (Angelina Jolie), an Eternal warrior who becomes romantically involved with the Deviant Kro in Marvel's comics books. Perhaps tellingly, the final Eternals trailer shows Kro ensnaring Thena with his tendril-like appendages in an oddly intimate fashion, possibly alluding to the pair being in love.
Even more intriguing, Eternals is confirmed to include an onscreen kiss between the Eternal Phastos (Brian Tyree Henry) and his husband (Haaz Sleiman), which begs the question: will the movie be daring enough to feature a sexual moment involving a queer couple? It seems unlikely, given the MPAA's restrictive attitude towards LGBTQ+ content, but that won't stop fans from hoping anyway.


November 12th, 2021: First Ever Disney+ Day
On Friday, November 12, The Walt Disney Company will host Disney+ Day, a global celebration that will come to life across all dimensions of the Company. Subscribers to Disney+ will be treated to new content releases across the service’s iconic brands, Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, National Geographic, and Star in international markets, along with a special presentation on Disney+ for fans with sneak peeks into what’s to come.
Disney+ Day will feature content premieres from all of the marquee brands on service, including:
The streaming premiere of Marvel Studios’ Shang-Chi and The Legend of The Ten Rings
A special celebrating the Marvel Cinematic Universe on Disney+ with an exciting look towards the future
The special was teased as part of Disney's massive lineup for Disney+ Day. Outside of celebrating current MCU titles on the service, the special will also give fans an "exciting look forwards the future." With Hawkeye, Ms. Marvel and She-Hulk having all completed production, and Moon Knight nearing the end of filming, there's plenty for the service to tease. The company promises subscribers will be treated to "breaking news, first looks, new trailers, exclusive clips, and appearances from Disney+ creators and stars."
Along with the MCU special, Disney+ Day will serve as the streaming premieres of Marvel Studios' Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings and Disney's Jungle Cruise. For those looking for something not Marvel-related on Disney+, the company has promised new content for all of its other major brands, including Pixar, Star Wars and National Geographic.

Fans Express Disappointment Over Emmy Loses
Despite being nominated for a total of 28 Emmys between WandaVision and The Falcon And The Winter Soldier, neither series came away with any general award wins.

WandaVision did win 3 of the Creative Awards in a separate announcement

HULU Series

Marvel's Hit-Monkey Animated Series Finally Has a Release Date
An exclusive look at 47 of fall 2021's new and returning shows
Hit Monkey (Nov. 17, Hulu)
Marvel's Hit-Monkey adaptation on Hulu is no longer in limbo, as the animated series has an official release date -- along with a first look.
As part of its preview of upcoming fall TV shows, Entertainment Weekly casually confirmed that Marvel's Hit-Monkey is not only a go but it's coming on Nov. 17 to Hulu. The long-in-development series has been relatively quiet since it was first announced as part of a suite of adult animated shows for Hulu, but fans can now expect it soon. Along with the release date, Hulu shared the first image from the show, featuring the titular assassin and his incorporeal sidekick. Check it out:
Revenge can be sweet — and sometimes fuzzy. Based on the Marvel comic and cre­ated by Josh Gordon and Will Speck, this darkly comedic se­ries follows a Japanese snow macaque whose clan meets a stranded hitman, Bryce (Jason Sudeikis), and nurses him back to health. But when Bryce bites the dust, it's up to the titular simian (guided by Bryce's ghost) to follow in his assassin footsteps and seek vengeance. "He's a character who is violent and temper­ amental but also deeply wounded and innocent," says Gordon. —Devan Coggan

Hit-Monkey Trailer

Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D./Agent Carter

Marvel One-Shot “Agent Carter” Becomes Easier To Find On Disney+
Following the release of the Marvel One-Shot “All Hail The King” on Disney+, Disney+ has made a little reshuffle and moved out the Agent Carter short into its own listing, having previously been found in the “Iron Man 3” extra section.
In the short, we see British operative Peggy Carter joining the nascent S.H.I.E.L.D. organization. As she searches for the “Zodiac” key, Agent Carter also battles her misogynistic, bureaucratic boss, Agent Flynn. It takes place after the main events of Captain America: The First Avenger.
The short was originally released in 2013 and was released originally on the Iron Man 3 Blu-ray/DVD. It stars Hayley Atwell, Bradley Whitford, Dominic Cooper, Shane Black, Neal McDonough, and Tim Trobec.
Currently, the short has only been moved into its own listing in some countries, including the US, Canada and Australia.
Moving the short out from the extras section makes sense for multiple reasons, mainly to make it easier for people to find it. While adding extra content like deleted scenes or behind-the-scenes footage makes more sense to include in that section. Bonus features that don’t have any real connection bar a home media physical release, are much more useful listed separately.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. star Chloe Bennet shuts down rumors about her reprising her role as Quake for Marvel's Secret Invasion series on Disney+.
Bennet commented on the persistent rumors during a recent Instagram story, noting, "I have avoided saying anything like this in general, on social media or whatever, because I thought maybe it would blow over, but it has not. I am in no way attached or involved, even at all or a little bit, in the Secret Invasion Marvel thing. I honestly don't even know really what that is... I am only coming on here to say this because it has gotten to the point that every day I'm getting hundreds of messages about this... I'm now getting like approached in person. Today it was in the tampon aisle at Target... So I figured I would just clear the air."

FEEDBACK [1:42:09]

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OUTRO [1:44:41]

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