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Feb 21, 2022

The Legends Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent Lauren, Agent Michelle, Consultant Chris, and Producer of the show Director SP discuss the 1992 Marvel Entertainment Group X-Men The Animated Series season two episodes “‘Till Death Do Us Part: Part 1,” “‘Till Death Do Us Part: Part 2,” “Whatever It Takes,” and “Red Dawn,” and “Repo Man.” They also discuss the top Marvel Studios news stories of the week including what Netflix is doing with the Marvel series, that Doctor Strange Superbowl Trailer and that Moon night Superbowl Trailer. The Team debriefs you on National Random Acts Of Kindness Day, a profile on Fox Kids Executive Sidney Iwanter, a Legends Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Previously On in honor of X-Men The Animated Series, episode synopses, Morph’s return, the grandiose and fabulous Mr. Sinister, Xavier and Magneto’s buddy comedy journey, Xavier’s walking in the Savage Land, The Shadow King, Storm’s character background and her two voice actors, Rogue and Storm Girl Power passing the Bechdel test, Colossus’ return to the series as a Golden Retriever, Matt LeBlanc or Mr. Peanutbutter (from BoJack Horseman), Alpha Flight because Canada, Wolverine’s Bone Claws and Len Wein, the noted mutant cameos , killing the Cyclops robot, and what Wolverine’s type is. Stay tuned after the credits for a few minutes of Legends Of S.H.I.E.L.D. bonus audio.




  • Marvel Entertainment’s X-Men The Animated Series As Shown On Disney+
  • Discuss the 1992 X-Men Animated Series season 2 episodes 1-5
  • Some background into Fox Kids Network Developer Sidney Iwanter
  • Weekly Marvel Studio News
  • What Netflix is doing with the Marvel series
  • That Doctor Strange Superbowl Trailer
  • That Moon night Superbowl Trailer
  • Your Feedback
  • Your favorite Marvel Comics Base video games
  • Your Multiverse Mutant and Avengers Team Ups
  • Your Favorite Rocking Marvel Character on Tour


Tom Holland’s Lip Sync Battle - Rhianna’s Umbrella




X-Men The Animated Series Fox Kids Network Executive Sidney Iwanter Profile


  • IMDB Credits
    • 1 Developer Credits since 1985
  • Background
    • Father fought in WWII (Lithuanian Jew)
  • Polish Cavalry
  • Joined the French - Captured at Dunkirk
  • Liberated from Concentration Camp
  • Fought in Battle Of The Bulge
  • Degree in History from the University Of Wisconsin
  • Accepted to UCLA film school but dropped out after a 1 ½
  • Got a job at channel 9 because he was a fast typist
  • That job led to a job at Paramount pictures
  • That led to a job at Hanna-Barbera in 1979
  • Same boss hired him in 1989 at Marvel Entertainment
  • Same boss hired him at Fox Kids a year later
  • Most proud of X-Men The Animated Series
  • Was Fox Kids network Executive Director on X-Men The Animated Series
  • Multi-leveled stories
  • References to Voltaire and Shakespeare
  • Show’s premise, outlines, scripts, story writers, first cuts and final cuts
  • Okays the show’s writers
  • Worked with Joe Calamari of Marvel to finalize premises
  • Bringing Morph back in season two was to satisfy a promise to Avery Coburn, the Broadcast Standards and Practices Person that the show would bring Morph back like a Soap Opera
  • X-Men The Animated Series was never designed for Adults. It was always designed for kids 6-11 years old
  • Sidney’s favorite X-Men was Beast
  • Wishes that the animation was better and they had the same budget Warner Bros was able to spend for Batman
  • The show was successful because:
    • Multilayered stories and great writing
    • Worked the characters backstories into their actions
    • Understood the philosophies of characters
    • Great voice talent
  • Interviews
    • Oral History: Sidney Iwanter
  • 01:00:01
  • Tortorice: So, this brings up then your post-UW career. What did you do? How did you how did you end up in the entertainment business?
  • Iwanter: I slept with all the wrong people. What happened was I went out to UCLA Film School. I got accepted to, I got accepted there. But I didn’t like it. In fact, I basically dropped out after maybe a year, year and a half. Why? Because academically, it was the pits.
  • Doney: Do you want a water?
  • Iwanter: Oh, no. Thank you. I had…
  • Tortorice: Especially when compared to UW, right?
  • Iwanter: Yeah. No, I’m I’m being serious about that. I had my major professor and film was Russell Merritt.
  • Tortorice: Fantastic teacher.
  • Iwanter: PhD from Harvard in Comp Lit. And he used to say to me, He’s now Berkeley, he’s Berkeley emeritus now. He used to say to me, You don’t study film. As. Unless, you don’t study film, as film, it’s part of an interdisciplinary study. So in other words, if you’re going to study film, you study it through English Lit, French Lit, History, Comp Lit, you know, economics. It doesn’t make any difference. But it’s not. Film is an art form, but it also is as an art form. You, if, if you’re studying Renaissance artists, you have to study Italian, you have to study the history. You have to know what’s going on at, in Florence and Venice and Rome at the time. Okay. The teachers at UCLA at that time and maybe still there. All they did was study film. But they studied film as if it were in a vacuum. They might as well have just been reading Daily Variety. I hated it, hated it with a passion. There was no intellectualism. There was, it was, it was like a wasteland. And I was really pissed because I had also gotten accepted to NYU. And, you know, and but I couldn’t afford NYU. And I could afford UCLA only because if you stayed there for a year, you’d become a California resident.
  • 01:02:59
  • And so I basically dropped out after about a year, year and a half. And I thought to myself, should I go back to Madison? No, because I don’t want my mother telling me. “Well, I told you so,” honest to God. So I stayed out in Los Angeles and I, weaseled my way into a job. My girlfriend, who I met here in Madison, we went out together to Los Angeles. And so she had gotten a job at J. Walter Thompson. And one day she says to me, Sidney, there’s a job. I hear from a friend who’s working at a TV station, Channel 9 (KHJ-TV), which was General Tire at the time, which is now owned by Disney. The station the there’s a job available there as a teletypist, you can type. And maybe you can go get the job and get off your ass. I says okay.
  • And I, I went there, I got the job. And the reason I got the job was that the person who had promised she wanted it had gone elsewhere and they just needed somebody. And so I actually had to take a typing test.
  • And so and I had prior to that, I worked at the phone company for 18 months as a teletypist. So I was really quick at this. So I got the job at Channel 9 and I got it through a woman named Shelby Conti, whose husband was a struggling composer named Bill [William] Conti, who was the guy from Rocky eventually, you know, an Oscar winner, you know, and so on, and then but he’s Bill Conti anyway. So that job led to a, because I like to talk to people. That job led to another job at Paramount Pictures Television, which was right across the street, which in research again, as a typist, which led to a job at Hanna-Barbera in 1979. I’m encapsulating all of this because there are all kinds of weird stories that go along with this stuff. A lot of one of them, I got the job working at Hanna-Barbera through drugs, but not I wasn’t taking them, but the person who hired me was and this God as my witness that you know, and she got fired from Hanna-Barbera because she came out of the ladies room with a milk sign, but got milk. Well, it wasn’t milk. So they fired her. They says, you can’t  be taking coke. You work for Hanna-Barbera! You know, we do Scooby Doo.
  • 01:06:00
  • What are you talking? And you know. Okay. Anyway, so and the but I had been doing some freelance work for Hanna-Barbera while I was at Paramount. And then I got fired because she had hired me, six weeks later. I say, man, I, I gotta I gotta get this this job, you know, because I’m losing too much money playing the horses at Santa Anita and Hollywood Park. That’s what, I used to do that to make I used to make extra money, you know, trying to play the ponies as well as, you know, poker because they were poker parlors back then. I was a real reprobate. I had just, you know, I would have probably ended up as something straight out of Guys and Dolls if I hadn’t gotten this job.
  • So I, I called, I called up to get my Hanna-Barbera job back, which was just a freelance job. And the person who answered the phone was the person who had just, had replaced the woman who had a coke problem, because she answered the phone because her secretary was in the bathroom. And one thing led to another. And this woman hired me. And this woman became my like my Rabbi in a way, she hired me and fired me three separate times, all for insubordination over the years, different jobs. And so she hired me at Hanna-Barbera. She hired me ten years later at Marvel Entertainment. And then a year after that at Fox Kids, where I became, everybody got to know me because of the shows I worked on, like in animation like X-Men and Batman and Beetlejuice and Spider-Man and Silver Surfer and Goosebumps. And so I mean, you know, and that’s basically, you know,
  • Tortorice: So you kind of fell into it, it sounds like.
  • Iwanter: Yeah. Oh, yeah. I fell into it because, and a lot of people fall into it.
  • Tortorice: Right.
  • Iwanter: Because those of us who didn’t, you know, when I went to UCLA, I didn’t want to become a production person. I think I wanted to, I wanted to be Harvey Goldberg or George Mosse and I knew I couldn’t because I don’t I don’t speak like that, you know, and so and I just ramble on and I just, you know, my, my stories, most of them are, you know, except the ones I tell you, you know, that there’s a lot of tall tale-isms about it, you know, that sort of stuff. But, but yeah, you do. I fell into it like a lot of people. And I’ve spent 40 years in kids programming.
  • Tortorice: What are you most proud of in terms of your work in kids programming?
  • Iwanter: The X-Men, the X-Men show. Because they still talk about it today.
  • 01:09:00
  • Because this, what this show did, this is animation from, it basically revived the Marvel Universe. It proved you could do this. [Bryan] Singer, the, the, the Director of the first X-Men movie, never read a comic book. He said, I only watched the series to get my, you know, to, to understand that world. And I was the network executive on that show, which meant that everything passed by my desk. All concepts, all scripts, all storyboards, all the, all the, you know, the, the pre-, the post-production. I was there with the editors and all this other stuff. And to this day it’s probably the most sophisticated storytelling. For a children’s. I don’t know if you’ve ever watched it?
  • Doney: Yeah, I have.
  • Iwanter: And, you know, it is, the animation might have sucked, but those stories, man, they were, they were multi-leveled. There was, there was, there, were, there was a character Beast who would always quote Voltaire and Shakespeare. I mean, you know, I got away with murder on this, because it was my show and nobody could touch it. And I did stuff that had never been done before in, you know, for kids programming.
  • And yeah, I made, I made those kinds of references. And it’s, that sort of stuff has been lost today because the people who make these decisions are stupid and they don’t believe that kids are smart enough. And even though you know, you’ve got, you’ve got the six-month-olds with their computers in front of them and you know. But so yeah, that I’m, I’m, I’m, I’m also proud of surviving, you know, because it’s not it was not an easy business. And because you’re always fighting for tenure and that’s your only as good as your, as you’re not good at all. No matter forget about what you just did. What are you gonna do for me now type of thing. So yeah.
  • Blast From the Past TV Interview
    • 15 year anniversary of the show
  • Executive Director Of X-Men The Animated Series
  • Show’s premise, outlines, scripts, story writers, first cuts and final cuts
  • Okays the show’s writers
  • Worked with Joe Calamari of Marvel to finalize premises
  • Bringing Morph back in season two was to satisfy a promise to Avery Coburn, the Broadcast Standards and Practices Person that the show would bring Morph back like a Soap Opera
  • X-Men The Animated Series was never designed for Adults. It was always designed for kids 6-11 years old
  • Sidney’s favorite X-Men was Beast
  • Wishes that the animation was better and they had the same budget Warner Bros was able to spend for Batman
  • The show was successful because:
    • Multilayered stories and great writing
    • Worked the characters backstories into their actions
    • Understood the philosophies of characters
    • Great voice talent


X-Men The Animated Series Season Two Episodes 1-5 Premiered on “Fox Kids”

  • (Episode Order As Shown On Disney+, Premiere Dates As Shown On Fox)
    • S2E1 “‘Till Death Do Us Part: Part 1” Saturday October 23rd, 1993
    • S2E2 “‘Till Death Do Us Part: Part 2” Saturday October 30th, 1993
    • S2E3 “Whatever It Takes” Saturday November 6th, 1993
    • S2E4 “Red Dawn” Saturday November 13th, 1993
    • S2E5 “Repo Man” Saturday November 20th, 1993
  • Produced By:
    • Will Meugniot
    • Larry Houston


X-Men The Animated Series Main Cast

  • Cedric Smith                                        ...         Professor X / Charles Xavier
    • 117 Credits, best known for X-Men
  • Norm Spencer                                      ...         Cyclops / Scott Summers 
    • 31 Credits, best known for X-Men
  • Catherine Disher                                  ...         Jean Grey / Phoenix
    • 122 Credits, best known for X-Men
  • Alison Sealy-Smith                              ...         Storm / Ororo Munroe
    • 72 Credits, best known for X-Men
  • Iona Morris                                          ...         Storm / Ororo Munroe
    • 101 Credits
      • Star Tek TOD (Little Girl)
      • Claudian Grant on Robotech
      • 2xStar Trek: Voyager
  • Lenore Zann                                         ...         Rogue
    • 110 Credits, best known for X-Men
  • Cal Dodd                                              ...         Wolverine / Logan
    • 34 Credits, best known for X-Men
  • Alyson Court                                        ...         Jubilee / Jubilation Lee
    • 100 Credits, best known for X-Men
  • George Buza                                        ...         Beast / Dr. Henry 'Hank' McCoy 
    • 163 Credits, best known for X-Men
  • Chris Potter                                         ...         Gambit / Remy LeBeau
    • 58 Credits
    • The Pacifier
    • Heartland
  •  Don Francks                                       ...         Sabretooth / Graydon Creed Sr. 
    • 191 Credits
    • Johnny Mnemonic
    • Heavy Metal
  • Brett Halsey                                         ...         Bolivar Trask
    • 154 Credits       
  • Barry Flatman                                      ...         Henry Peter Gyrich (works with Trask)
  • David Hemblen                         ...         Magneto / Erik Magnus Lehnsherr
  • Lawrence Bayne                                   ...         Cable / Nathan Dayspring-Summers
    • 127 Credits
  • Randall Carpenter        (She)                ...         Mystique / Raven Darkholme (voice)
    • 13 Credits         
  • Lally Cadeau                                         ...         Dr. Moira MacTaggert 
  • Stephen Ouimette                                ...         Angel / Warren Worthington III 
  • John Colicos                                        ...         Apocalypse / En Sabah Nur
  • Rick Bennett                                        ...         Colossus / Piotr Rasputin / Juggernaut / Cain Marko (voice)
  • Philip Akin                                           ...         Bishop (voice) (as Phil Aiken)
  • Marc Strange                                       ...         Forge (voice)
  • Chris Britton                ...         Mr. Sinister / Nathaniel Essex 
  • Ron Rubin                                ...         Morph
  • Maurice Dean Wint                   ...         Shadow King
  • Robert Cait                              ...         Colossus / Piotr Rasputin
  • Tara Strong                             ...         Illyana Rasputin


NEWS [47:46]






  • Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (May 6, 2022)




  • Thor: Love and Thunder (July 8, 2022)






  • Ironheart is in development for release on Disney+
    • No date has been announced. 
    • Series confirmed on Disney+ Day 12 Nov 21


  • Armor Wars is in development for release on Disney+ but no date has been announced. 


  • Echo is in development for release on Disney+
    • Confirmed on Disney+ Day 12 Nov 21 but no release/premiere date given. 


  • Agatha: House of Harkness
    • Announced/Confirmed on Disney+ Day 12 Nov 2021


  • An untitled Wakanda series is in development for release on Disney+ but no date has been announced. 


  • X-Men ‘97 (2023)
    • Written by Executive Producer Beau DeMayo.
    • Announced Disney+ Day (12 Nov 2021)


  • The Marvels (Feb. 17, 2023)


  •  Marvel Zombies
    • Animated series announced on Disney+ Day 12 Nov 21
    • No date given


  • Also, we know there will be a Loki season two at some point.


  • Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (July 28, 2023)


  • Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 (May 5th, 2023)


  • Fantastic Four  (???)


  • Guardians Of The Galaxy Holiday Special
    • Confirmed during Disney+ Day 12 Nov 21
    • Different from I Am Groot


  • Spider-Man: Freshman Year
    • Announced during Disney+ Day 12 Nov 2021
    • No premiere date given


  • Untitled (February 16th, 2024)


  • Untitled (May 3rd, 2024)


  • Untitled (July 26th, 2024)


  • Untitled (November 8th, 2024)


  • List of MCU films in production without premiere dates
    • Fantastic Four
    • Deadpool 3
    • Blade
    • Avengers-Level Team up to end the phase (not confirmed in development)
      • Could be linked to Russo Brothers story from last week
    • Captain America Sequel
    • Possible X-Men


  • Projects that have NOT been announced yet
    • Young Avengers




Netflix Is Removing Its Marvel Shows Next Month 


Quietly, Netflix has revealed that all six of its original Marvel streaming series will join a rare handful of Netflix Originals to leave the service, and it’s not sure yet if, or when, they’ll appear elsewhere. No news where Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Punisher, and The Defenders will land.

io9 has confirmed via UK and US accounts that in addition to the Marvel Netflix shows, Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD will be leaving the platform at midnight on February 28.




Dr. Strange Trailer (Aired During The Superbowl).

Marvel Studios' Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness | Official Trailer

Captain Carter’s Shield Spotted




Big Game TV Spot | Marvel Studios’ Moon Knight | Disney+


‘Echo’ Gets A New Working Title (Exclusive)

One Take News has exclusively learned that Echo has a working title of Grasshopper. Now you may be saying “Echo already has a working title” and you’re right. The good people over at The Cosmic Circus reported that the working title for Echo was Whole Branzino and while that was indeed the working title, Marvel Studios likes to have multiple working titles for their projects and they tend to shift over time. As of right now, Grasshopper is the title they’re working with and I expect it’ll stick until filming begins.


FEEDBACK [1:01:10]



Legends of S.H.I.E.L.D. @LegendsofSHIELD

Our host @playcomicscast would like to know what has been your favorite Marvel Comics based video game of all time?

Chris Ferrell @TheChrisFerrell

Marvel’s Spider-Man on PS4. Honorable mentions to X-Men Legends and Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

aka LW Salinas @sithwitch

I haven't played the PS4 Spider-Man or thr new GotG game yet. So right now my favorites are Squenix's Avengers and the Wolverine game from the early 2000s, the one with Mark Hamill as Wolverine.

One Bachman A Day...#BlackLivesMatter #KamiGaming @anthonybachman

Spider-Man on PS4 is the best so far with Miles Morales a close second.

Dr. Gnome to you @MrParacletes

Top 4:

X-Men Arcade

Spider-Man 2

Maximum Carnage

X-Men on Sega

Dr. Gnome to you @MrParacletes

Did @StargatePioneer try to make Deanna Troi the Launchpad McQuack of Star Trek? 🤣

Legends S.H.I.E.L.D.@LegendsofSHIELD

Let's pretend that @DrStrange #MultiverseOfMadness will be able to bring together the Phase I Avengers and The Fox Mutants somehow. Which MCU Avenger and X-Men Mutant do you want to see team up on screen? #MarvelStudios #xmen #Avengers #mcu

Chris Ferrell @TheChrisFerrell

Deadpool and Spidey.

Dr. Gnome to you @MrParacletes

Wolverine & Cap, could share WWII stories.

Gambit & Hawkeye. A thief & an assassin. What could go wrong?

Beast & Banner. 2 Jekyll & Hyde archetypes pontificating. 

Quicksilver & Quicksilver, because why not?

If we extend further phases & do all things Russian, Yelena & Colossus.

Legends S.H.I.E.L.D.@LegendsofSHIELD

Which #Marvel #Superhero would you love to see in a band on stage on tour?

The Marvelous Madames @MARVELMadames

I could see Bucky on stage with some eyeliner & a guitar. - Kris

Dr. Gnome to you @MrParacletes

Ant-Man and the Ant-Tones.

Rhi D @RhiD83

Dr Strange - I'd buy his album which I imagine would be a cross between Depeche Mode and Kraftwerk

Ky @TheFoxtrot_

The Deke Squad

🇨🇱🌳 Pafmer 🌳🇨🇱@Pafmer4

The deke Squad featuring Daisy Johnson

Kristina #SaveDaredevil @Kristina4109

Is Lila Cheney too much of a gimme?




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