Sep 27, 2021
The Legends Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Producer of the show Director SP, Agent Lauren, and Consultant Chris discuss the Disney+ What If…? season one episode “What If…Thor Were An Only Child?” the weekly Marvel news and listener feedback. The Team debriefs you National Great American Pot Pie Day and Bisexuality Visibility Day 2021, what a complete and total fun party episode they saw on What If…? this week, a robust voice acting critique for the episode, a Watcher Watch by Chris, the team expect to all get Magic tattoos together in Vegas soon, the city-wide multi-school party, why the MCU needs more Darcy, the epic-ness of the Grandmaster, a possible Stan Lee cameo, Korg’s pacifier, evidence as to why Howard The Duck brings the fun into the series, the shock as to why Heimdall does not pay attention to Midgard, where is Thor’s sister?, the grand S.H.I.E.L.D. weapon, how the Asgardian spell check is really magic, the episode Thor-Captain Marvel fight with looney toons map names, Thor admits he is indeed a horse god, what Odin’s What If moment really was, that incredible ending, a fandom’s appeal to maintain Marvel television shows in MCU canon, Chloe Bennett’s stunning admissions, and the upcoming Disney+ Day. Stay tuned after the credits for a few minutes of Legends Of S.H.I.E.L.D. bonus audio.
THIS TIME ON LEGENDS OF S.H.I.E.L.D.:
WHAT IF…? “WHAT IF … THOR WERE AN ONLY CHILD?” [7:22]
S1E7 “What If … Thor Were An Only Child?”
Series Directed By: Bryan Andrews
3 directing credits starting 1999
3x Men In Black: The Series
5x Jackie Chan Adventures
7x What If
Also a Storyboard Artist with 41 credit
And a Writer with 9 total credits
Story Editor: Mathew Chauncy
2 Writer Credits starting in 2018
16x 3Below: Tales Of Arcadia
9x What If…? (Story Editor for this episode but Written by for 4)
Head Writer/Episode Writer/Showrunner: A.C. Bradley
1 producing credit starting in 2021
Writer: 5 Credits
1x Arrow (Birds Of Prey)
28x Trollhunters: Tales Of Arcadia
38x 3Below: Tales of Arcadia
9x What If
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MCU – MARVEL STUDIOS
MCU Wiki Community Urges Marvel Studios to Keep Past TV Shows Canon
A Passionate and Concerned Appeal for the Preservation of Marvel Cinematic Universe Television Canon, from a Devoted Fan
Written by MCU Wiki Admin/User: +BEJT
I regret only reaching out in appeal, but unfortunately while the praises of Marvel Studios are always heard, Marvel Television fans are feeling unheard.
Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Marvel’s Agent Carter, Marvel’s Daredevil, Marvel’s Jessica Jones, Marvel’s Luke Cage, Marvel’s Iron Fist, Marvel’s The Defenders, Marvel’s Inhumans, Marvel’s The Punisher, Marvel’s Runaways, Marvel’s Cloak & Dagger, and Helstrom* comprise 29 seasons of television/386 episodes/over 300 hours, making up a massive portion of the official Marvel Cinematic Universe (as of the end of 2020, approximately 86% of it by runtime**).
The Incidents That Have Caused Increasing Concern:
...I was already scared by 2019 of how Captain Marvel would handle Coulson’s history. Fortunately, the excellent film did not provide many significant problems, but this felt only like luck, since the film did not appear to take Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. into account: seemingly implying that Fury and Coulson barely knew each other in 1995 (the show established Fury recruited and supervised Coulson in 1982), and having Coulson mention the Kree (Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 1 involved him not knowing who the Kree were – fortunately, the T.A.H.I.T.I. protocol erased Coulson’s memory of everything to do with his resurrection, and with Kree being a key part, they would naturally have also been wiped).
The perfect casting of Mahershala Ali as Blade also unfortunately further drove the false narrative online, with people claiming that it meant the shows were “confirmed” non-canon due to Ali already having an MCU role as Cottonmouth. While this was an Internet overreaction given there are other examples of dual casting, the dual casting quirk not being acknowledged felt concerning.
It admittedly did not help that Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 6 set itself a year after Avengers: Infinity War and Marvel’s Runaways: Season 3 took its timeline through to post-Avengers: Infinity War 2018 dates, yet unfortunately neither referenced the Snap.
A 2019 quote from Mr. Feige, which fairly described the Disney+ shows as the first time TV would truly connect back and forth with the films, was falsely run by sites as “confirmation” that the other shows were not part of the MCU. This quote has been weaponised and referenced ad nauseum for 2 years.
The Darkhold would appear in WandaVision with no link to Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D./Marvel’s Runaways
The fan reaction to the Darkhold and Mobius scenes has also led to upsetting incidents where creators such as Jac Schaeffer and Michael Waldron are asked questions they are seemingly, understandably, not informed to answer, giving confused and accidentally damaging quotes.
There are other great Marvel shows, e.g. Legion, but these have nowhere near the power or lasting impact in my heart simply by virtue of not being part of this world.
The MCU family is such a wonderful thing, but right now, Television-inclusive fans don’t feel like we’re welcome in that family anymore.
If the Inhuman Royal Family needed to be rebooted within the MCU… it would not be the worst thing imaginable.
The idea of being an extricable part of the MCU does not apply to Marvel’s Iron Fist
There is precedent with Star Wars for wiping canon, but there it was motivated by a need to free the storytelling. The Marvel Television MCU shows are not particularly restrictive. Most things can be picked up on fairly easily, perhaps at most needing a couple of throwaway setup lines.
Alternate Universe: The shows aren’t novelty What If…? type stories, e.g. “What If… Phil Coulson Were Resurrected?”, made to be a separate little alternate story – but born and bred as parts of building, developing, growing, interweaving the beautiful main MCU world and timeline.
Recently, Mr. Feige made the comment, “Everything is on the board. That’s one of the fun things about the comics is that characters would appear and disappear and come and go […] There are some great characters and actors from those shows.” This exciting quote bears similarity to previous remarks of Mr. Feige’s, such as, “All of those things inhabit, however far on the outskirts, the same continuity, so certainly that opportunity [to integrate those characters] exists.”
Eternals Earns PG-13 Rating
FilmRatings.com's breakdown of the rating describes Eternals as including "fantasy violence and action, some language and brief sexuality." It's the latter element that has fans raising their eyebrows, with the Marvel Cinematic Universe's movies having avoided sexual content since Disney acquired Marvel Entertainment in 2009.
Unlike MCU movies past, romance is said to play a key role in the film's narrative. It even features a love triangle between on-again, off-again Eternal couple Ikaris (Richard Madden) and Sersi (Gemma Chan) and Dane Whitman (Kit Harington), the mortal human who's dating Sersi when the movie picks up in the present.
The "brief sexuality" could also allude to a scene with Thena (Angelina Jolie), an Eternal warrior who becomes romantically involved with the Deviant Kro in Marvel's comics books. Perhaps tellingly, the final Eternals trailer shows Kro ensnaring Thena with his tendril-like appendages in an oddly intimate fashion, possibly alluding to the pair being in love.
Even more intriguing, Eternals is confirmed to include an onscreen kiss between the Eternal Phastos (Brian Tyree Henry) and his husband (Haaz Sleiman), which begs the question: will the movie be daring enough to feature a sexual moment involving a queer couple? It seems unlikely, given the MPAA's restrictive attitude towards LGBTQ+ content, but that won't stop fans from hoping anyway.
November 12th, 2021: First Ever Disney+ Day
On Friday, November 12, The Walt Disney Company will host Disney+ Day, a global celebration that will come to life across all dimensions of the Company. Subscribers to Disney+ will be treated to new content releases across the service’s iconic brands, Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, National Geographic, and Star in international markets, along with a special presentation on Disney+ for fans with sneak peeks into what’s to come.
Disney+ Day will feature content premieres from all of the marquee brands on service, including:
The special was teased as part of Disney's massive lineup for Disney+ Day. Outside of celebrating current MCU titles on the service, the special will also give fans an "exciting look forwards the future." With Hawkeye, Ms. Marvel and She-Hulk having all completed production, and Moon Knight nearing the end of filming, there's plenty for the service to tease. The company promises subscribers will be treated to "breaking news, first looks, new trailers, exclusive clips, and appearances from Disney+ creators and stars."
Along with the MCU special, Disney+ Day will serve as the streaming premieres of Marvel Studios' Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings and Disney's Jungle Cruise. For those looking for something not Marvel-related on Disney+, the company has promised new content for all of its other major brands, including Pixar, Star Wars and National Geographic.
Fans Express Disappointment Over Emmy Loses
Despite being nominated for a total of 28 Emmys between WandaVision and The Falcon And The Winter Soldier, neither series came away with any general award wins.
WandaVision did win 3 of the Creative Awards in a separate announcement
Marvel's Hit-Monkey Animated Series Finally Has a Release Date
An exclusive look at 47 of fall 2021's new and returning shows
Hit Monkey (Nov. 17, Hulu)
Marvel's Hit-Monkey adaptation on Hulu is no longer in limbo, as the animated series has an official release date -- along with a first look.
As part of its preview of upcoming fall TV shows, Entertainment Weekly casually confirmed that Marvel's Hit-Monkey is not only a go but it's coming on Nov. 17 to Hulu. The long-in-development series has been relatively quiet since it was first announced as part of a suite of adult animated shows for Hulu, but fans can now expect it soon. Along with the release date, Hulu shared the first image from the show, featuring the titular assassin and his incorporeal sidekick. Check it out:
Revenge can be sweet — and sometimes fuzzy. Based on the Marvel comic and created by Josh Gordon and Will Speck, this darkly comedic series follows a Japanese snow macaque whose clan meets a stranded hitman, Bryce (Jason Sudeikis), and nurses him back to health. But when Bryce bites the dust, it's up to the titular simian (guided by Bryce's ghost) to follow in his assassin footsteps and seek vengeance. "He's a character who is violent and temper amental but also deeply wounded and innocent," says Gordon. —Devan Coggan
Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D./Agent Carter
Marvel One-Shot “Agent Carter” Becomes Easier To Find On Disney+
Following the release of the Marvel One-Shot “All Hail The King” on Disney+, Disney+ has made a little reshuffle and moved out the Agent Carter short into its own listing, having previously been found in the “Iron Man 3” extra section.
In the short, we see British operative Peggy Carter joining the nascent S.H.I.E.L.D. organization. As she searches for the “Zodiac” key, Agent Carter also battles her misogynistic, bureaucratic boss, Agent Flynn. It takes place after the main events of Captain America: The First Avenger.
The short was originally released in 2013 and was released originally on the Iron Man 3 Blu-ray/DVD. It stars Hayley Atwell, Bradley Whitford, Dominic Cooper, Shane Black, Neal McDonough, and Tim Trobec.
Currently, the short has only been moved into its own listing in some countries, including the US, Canada and Australia.
Moving the short out from the extras section makes sense for multiple reasons, mainly to make it easier for people to find it. While adding extra content like deleted scenes or behind-the-scenes footage makes more sense to include in that section. Bonus features that don’t have any real connection bar a home media physical release, are much more useful listed separately.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. star Chloe Bennet shuts down rumors about her reprising her role as Quake for Marvel's Secret Invasion series on Disney+.
Bennet commented on the persistent rumors during a recent Instagram story, noting, "I have avoided saying anything like this in general, on social media or whatever, because I thought maybe it would blow over, but it has not. I am in no way attached or involved, even at all or a little bit, in the Secret Invasion Marvel thing. I honestly don't even know really what that is... I am only coming on here to say this because it has gotten to the point that every day I'm getting hundreds of messages about this... I'm now getting like approached in person. Today it was in the tampon aisle at Target... So I figured I would just clear the air."
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